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(@chris)
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I am driving myself nuts and this is supposed to be relaxing for me but I had in my note pad a dropline css and decided to incorporated into a new skin and it is mostly there except my home's  submenu isn't moving off when you click on another top menu.

Here is the preview of skin and menu : Orange
Here is the css :Dropline Menu CSS

ps. Can someone tell me where this rss is located in the files? RSS

Help is Appreciated. :mrgreen:


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Posted : 02/11/2007 12:53 am
(@carissa)
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What browser are you using? It's working fine for me in both IE 7 and Firefox. Very neat idea, btw! Though I don't know that people will think there are more items associated with "home".

The rss is located in the main folder. rss.php


 
Posted : 02/11/2007 9:57 am
(@chris)
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No the buttons should work, the problem is the if you press Browse or Admin, the subtitles should stay on and not Home's sub menu.

the rss I wanted was the image/link on the page, I can't find it to change the link for it. I am using feed.php not rss.php


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Posted : 02/11/2007 10:49 am
 Elle
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It should be under page links in the admin panel (RSS).


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Posted : 02/11/2007 11:20 am
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Nope.  πŸ™‚ I have that you see here on the principal's skin front page http://samemmetales.fannish.org/index.php?skin=prinicipal

I want to change the link and image on recent page as well.


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Posted : 02/11/2007 11:47 am
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It's because in your header.tpl, you have the home menu listed as "current" and the other menus listed as "sub. I think you're going to need to give each menu a unique id, and match that id up with the {page_id} variable. You'd have to  include that variable in your header.tpl and it will pull up automatically on each page.

I would include it like <body id="{page_title}">

I think there is a list of the page titles and what pages they go do in the skinning documentation. It's going to take a bit of work to do this, and an advanced knowledge of CSS.


 
Posted : 02/11/2007 1:37 pm
(@itanshi)
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I've taken your code and tried to make it match one of my themes, but it seems to make it truly work I'll need your variables file for your skin that works with it. Thanks.


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Posted : 19/11/2007 1:14 am
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This is just an FYI, and I'm not at all speaking for the original poster, but generally, it's best to ask people first before you take their code. They may not want to release it for public use, and the original author of the code should get to make that decision.


 
Posted : 19/11/2007 10:05 am
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Would this not be grounds under GPL? Well that aside, yes asking would be better, but even so I'm using it as a framework which is fair use. Thanks for the concern, I was a bit hasty.


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Posted : 19/11/2007 2:51 pm
 Elle
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I'm probably not the best person to talk about skinning/code and taking code (getting slightly angry at the very moment) but I wouldn't class it as GPL if the code does, indeed, "belong" to Chris and not eFic itself...


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Posted : 19/11/2007 3:15 pm
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No, Itanshi. For something to be under the GPL, it has to be released under the GPL. eFiction is released under the GPL and you can take it and mod it and change the skin six ways til Sunday, but unless you release those changes, they do not fall under eFiction's license. Designs to not ever fall under the GPL unless they are specifically released as such.

This isn't the best place to go into this, but I'll clarify the matter as I understand it. You can, under the license, access and modify the backed code of efiction. We offer it free, but technically, we could charge for it. Any changes are yours unless you release them. If you release them they have to be released under the GPL, but do not necessarily have to be free.

A "design" that is just html/css is always owned/copyrighted by the person who created it and can be  released under a different license, such as creative commons, as long as you release that design separate from eFiction. Taking someone's original skin, or even part of it, and using it on your own site does not fall under fair use. It falls under copyright infringement.

And to clarify, I wasn't exactly trying to call you out specifically. Just making a general comment.


 
Posted : 19/11/2007 3:23 pm
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Mm i understand the GPL concern, hence i put it aside. Using it 100% is theft, but code is hazy. How many changes until it becomes fair use? My intention is not to take it 100% obviously I need to adapt it and even more so with the variables at hand. I also mean to fix the issue raised in this post which I will make available. Also it is quite possible this is derivative itself from free online sources or merely coincidental as code has only so many methods available for a given task obsfucation tactics aside.


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Posted : 19/11/2007 4:30 pm
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To Itanshi: So not cool as asking would have be nice. 😑 The menu isn't part of efiction (I design off the default templates but I'd removed entirely the default menu for Orange) since it is something new I'm trying and I stated on the front of my news page that my skins including orange is only seen to public because I need help css customizing. Look if you had ask I probably would of told you that I didn't feel comfortable making it available because as Carissa said I have more work to do with it to make it the way I want it to work so right now I moved things in the menu so it can work for me but you taking it makes me a little angry, not a lot, but a little.

Look I always planned on releasing a basic version of this skin with credit links and all but I have school and it will not be soon, probably not until next year.

If you want, I could point you to a javascript dropline menu that you could try adopting to efiction.


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Posted : 19/11/2007 4:42 pm
(@itanshi)
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I'd much appreciate that, sorry for the trouble. I forgot to mention what I have is not currently/was not intended for public use and prolly wasn't going to be for some time with the problems I mentioned. Even so, removed.


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Posted : 19/11/2007 4:55 pm
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Code is an integral part of the design so the copyright issues are not really that hazy. You own the design, you own the code that makes the design work.  I also think there is some confusion on the issue of fair use. Fair use is simply a clause in the US copyright code that allows you to use copyrighted material under certain circumstances, such as review, scholarship, teaching, and parody. What Chris does not own is the idea of a drop line menu, so you could use one from another free source and/or figure it out yourself. If Chris has gotten the code from another source...well, that's why you ask first.

All of this is rather irrelevant. It's not like Chris is going to sue you, right? The point I was simply trying to make, is that you should always ask first. Lots of us have had our designs stolen, and it's really very annoying.


 
Posted : 19/11/2007 5:29 pm
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