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(@darklight)
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Hey, is anyone else having the 'Password Incorrect' issue with SMF? Just to let everyone know right from the start, this is not an issue with the efiction bridge. It's a problem a lot of people have been having with SMF since the upgrade from the 1.0.8 version of the software (meaning 1.0.9 and up) and for some reason the developers at SMF won't acknowledge that there's a bug. They insist that it's for security, but what's the point of security that so good that it doesn't even all the members to use the software as it's supposed to be used.

Go to the SMF site and do a search for password incorrect, and you'll come up with more than a few of these threads, all with the same no-answer answers. I've tried everyone of the solutions and my members are still having this problem. Say what you will about phpbb, but at least members can get logged in on the first try. When this many people are having the same problem and it's causing problems with their sites, it's a bug.

Aside from the headaches and drop members who actually sign into their accounts, I started this thread to ask if anyone here has come up with a solution for this problem that actually works, unlike the suggestions at SMF?

I hope that it's okay to post this here, and if it isn't please go ahead and lock it or remove it. It's just that I'm getting desperate for a solution to this problem and SMF staff won't even acknowledge it. I'm no coder, so I have no idea what else to try.


 
Posted : 24/03/2007 12:48 am
(@carissa)
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I haven't noticed this problem here or on my fic site, which runs SMF bridged with efiction.


 
Posted : 24/03/2007 1:00 am
(@jacci)
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I am running SMF 1.1.2 (recently upgraded from 1.1.1), with no bridge and haven't come across any problems like that with login or password.

What i am finding though is all the mods that claim to be 1.1.2 compliant are coming up as 'corrupted or incompatible version' since the upgrade from 1.1.1 to 1.1.2.


why is nothing ever easy?
url: http://www.pretendercentre.com/missingpieces/     
php: 5.2.5  msql: 5.0.45-community
efic version: 3.4.3           latest patches: yes
bridges: none              mods: challenges, displayword, beta-search

 
Posted : 24/03/2007 1:20 am
(@darklight)
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It's an issue that pops up with seemingly random members. It was giving me problems when I first started using SMF, but it went away for me, so I thought that the problem was gone until I started getting emails from the members. When I checked the error log there were pages and pages of the 'Password incorrect' error. Some people it would let login after one error, and some after two or three, but there were some who said they couldn't get on at all.

I have to admit, that using some of the solutions I found on SMF cut back on problem a lot, but it's still there. As far as anyone can tell it's either the Java Script, the password hashing or some combo of the two. I've reading up on this stuff for the last two weeks whenever I got free time, but no-one has a real solution and anyone who posts for help, gets the same things that didn't work before as the answer for the SMF staff.

I'm about ready to give up on SMF and would have already if it wasn't some much trouble unbridging my site. Troublesome or not, if there's still no solution or acknowledgment of the problem by the time phpbb3 comes out, I'm switching as soon as someone offers an efiction bridge. I can understand having problems, but all this denial isn't helping anyone.

I guess I'm just one of the few having this problem. Still, there were no problems with the install and there are more than a few others having the same problem. It happens in both Firefox and IE, but more in IE. Oh well, I guess I'll keep looking for something that'll help me out. Not that it's too bad anymore. Either fewer people are trying to sign in or the changes I did make helped out some of the ones having issues.


 
Posted : 24/03/2007 1:32 am
(@carissa)
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I just looked at my logs and, while there are more password incorrect errors than others, I assume it's only because those people are actually typing in their passwords incorrectly. No one's complained, and most of them are people I've seen logged in or posting.

However, that being said, SMF has a strange way of password hashing and it's a little confusing. I haven't looked into your problem, but I suspect that's where the trouble lies. However, it did make it easy to transfer all the efic users over because it stores the md5 encryption and the password salt in two different database tables.

What do they say about it? Can you link to one of the threads?


 
Posted : 24/03/2007 10:25 am
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(@carissa)
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I guess I'll just consider myself lucky that I don't seem to be experiencing this...It does seem as if the developers are grasping at straws for a solution. πŸ™


 
Posted : 24/03/2007 11:16 am
(@chelle)
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I've had this problem only a few times..where I was telling the screen 'but I typed it correctly!'  I haven't had any cries for help from my members and beleive me..when things go wierd I know pretty early.  I have a member that claims to be my techie difficulty  πŸ˜€

I wonder if it's not a clash of some settings that are supposed to help with flooding both with connects to the DB and to combat spam registration/posts.  Sorry I can't offer up anything to try, but I have had that problem myself. 


 
Posted : 25/03/2007 4:35 pm
(@darklight)
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Don't worry about it too much. With the latest changes I made to the forum, I'm down to only about three or four people having the problem and they get in after the second or third try most of the time. From some of what I read, it may be an issue with saving your password with your browser. Of course they also say it's old themes, and just about anything else but the forum itself so...

For now I'm just going to forget it for a week or so, before I look for a solution again.


 
Posted : 25/03/2007 5:37 pm
(@guest1839)
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I've been having a similar problem, but i've never tried to integrate the two before, so it's probably something i've done.  Put simply, i'm useless with anything code related.  I can only just about upload a script without messing something up so i'll leave the fixes to someone who's got a better idea on what they're doing.


 
Posted : 25/03/2007 9:11 pm
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